Ask the Patch Pro: Your Career and Job Questions Answered
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Our Patch Pros have years of combined experience helping other navigate the sometimes confusing world of employment.
Whether you need advice on how to write a cover letter, where to start your job search after graduation and everything else in between, these folks will have the answers.
Here is this week's panel of experts:
Tracy Vaubel, manager, Ames Manpower
Chris McLinden, president/owner, Axis Human Capital
Amanda Schickel, career services manager, non-regulated programs, Kaplan University
Michael Gremmer, regional vice-president, Robert Half International
Billie Sucher, career transition consultant, speaker and author
So what are you waiting for? Ask your pressing job and career-related questions in the comments below.
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Jody Gifford
8:41 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
A close family member was recently downsized from his job and has decided to change his career path. How do you begin searching for a position in a different (but similar) field without having specific experience? Should he expect to take a reduced salary to start fresh in a field he's never worked in before?
Chris McLinden
9:38 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Jody -
Short answer is yes ...long term - no. If he is coming out of the same industry (for example insurance ) he may be quite familiar with the business, and it's specific terminolgy ect ....so his ramp up time would be quicker (a plus) .... so if he transfers his skill sets (both genral and insdustry specific) he should be back to his previous earning potential is a shorter time frame.
Amanda Schickel, Career Services Manager at Kaplan University
10:43 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Hi Jody,
We run into this quite a bit at Kaplan, as we often have students who are changing their career paths. I would agree with Chris in saying that at least initially, he should be prepared to take a reduced salary. Because he will be starting in a new field, he may need to take a lower level position, which probably won't pay as much. However, if he is able to apply his past experience and skills, hopefully he will be able to work his way back up within the new company. As far as searching for the new position, I would recommend looking for those positions which utilize a number of the skills he developed in his past position and making sure to highlight these on his resume. Regardless of the field in which they were developed, skills like communication, team work, goal achievement, etc. are transferable to new positions.
Amanda Schickel, Career Services Manager at Kaplan University
8:55 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Hi! I'm Amanda Schickel and I am the Career Services Manager at Kaplan University for all non-health programs. In this role, I work with students and graduates from a variety of programs, including business, information technology, criminal justice, and paralegal studies, to assist them in finding in-field employment. I coach our students on the job search process, resumes, cover letters, interviewing skills, application completion, and networking. I look forward to answering your questions!
Beth Dalbey
9:26 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
What are the best strategies for downsized Baby Boomers who are competing in a crowded job market with people half their age?
Michael J Gremmer
1:50 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Hi Beth. I'm Mike Gremmer and I'm the Regional Vice President for Robert Half International overseeing our Iowa offices. Regardless of age, workers should make sure their skills are up-to-date and to Chris’ point, that they are ahead of the curve in terms of technology. This includes knowledge of the latest software programs, but also familiarity with social media, which is becoming an essential tool for many organizations. Additionally, all job seekers should continue networking. Conventional wisdom is right: It often is about who you know, and this is especially true in today’s job market.
Chris McLinden
9:33 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Beth
I would say first and foremost to this group of people is to use that experience to thier advantage while also updating any skill sets that need an uptick (technology, social media, CRM/contact management skills). I would also get in the mind set that everyone and everybody (from a geographic standpoint) is now your competition - not just candidates half thier age.
Stephen Schmidt
9:42 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
I've read that people with jobs actually have an easier time for applying for new jobs than people without them, which is part of the reason many people have stayed unemployed for so long. What do you recommend for an unemployed person who doesn't want to fall into this vicious cycle? Is having any job better than having no job at all or could you hurt your stock for taking a job for this reason?
Chris McLinden
10:03 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Stephen
Most of our clients are asking us to find candidates that are currently employed. That is thier choice and certainly within their bounds legally to do just that. I would make sure that if you are long term unemployed to look at "temping" or "staffing" through a staffing firm (short term slots) ...I would also look at upgading certain skill sets though a community college and volunteering at a local food bank or other non profit that might need a volunteer on a temporary basis. The worst thing you can tell a potential employer when they ask what you have been doing the past few months or years is "looking for a job".
Michael J Gremmer
1:51 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
When hiring, companies are looking for professionals whose skills are current and who possess expertise on the latest industry developments. To help enhance their marketability, job seekers who are unemployed should look for opportunities, such as temporary assignments or volunteer work in their field, to keep their skills shark and industry knowledge up to date. Professional associations can provide great opportunities as well.
Chris McLinden
9:47 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Hello - my name is Chris McLinden, I have owned my own recruiting firm, Axis Human Capital, Inc. ("headhunters") with offices in Waukee, IA for the past eight years. We primarily recruit sales and marketing professionals for both local and national firms. We are employer paid and looking for high activity individuals who have a track record of verifiable sales success (above plan performance on a specific quota $ number). We only place full time permanent positions (not staffing or temp slots).
I can be reached at axishumancapital@earthlink.net or 515.897.5627
Jack F
10:12 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Nice free advertising Chris. However, you never did contribute an idea except hire you to find me a job. I am 55, do you think my age may be a detriment to getting hired after my company like Wells Fargo lays off an entire division and then opens another "division" hiring a bunch of young kids at half the pay to do basically the same job but under a different branch? Like the run on sentence. :-)
Chris McLinden
11:49 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Hi Jack
We were asked to introduce ourselves on this chat - so that is what I did (above).
Recruiters/"headhunters" are not hired by candidates to find them jobs ( a common misconceprtion among job seekers) so we wouldn't be available for hire by any candidates to find them jobs .... that isn't are business model - we are not paid by jobseekers.
As far as "contributing an idea" I would look at some of the answers to previous questions we have had today re: long term unemployed. Upgrade skill sets while looking for work, have a great "can do" attitude, get a temp job through one of the many fine staffing firms we have in the Des Moines metro and put your best foot forward while seeking out that next opportutnity. One other "opportunity" that many jobseekers don't think about is that of "being thier own boss" ...let this economy and/or job layoff give birth to a new venture, business, or idea of thier own and start their own business. Two books I would recommend in this regard are: "The Start-up of You: Adapt to the Future, Invest in Yourself, and Transform Your Career" by Reid Hoffman (the founder of LinkedIn) and "Crush It!: Why NOW Is the Time to Cash In on Your Passion" by Gary Vaynerchuk.
Best of luck and good fortune to you Jack!
cmm
Megan VerHelst
12:56 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Jack, thanks for contributing a question to this, but this isn't like all the other stories you comment on. I'd ask you to please respect the people who've been so kind as to volunteer their time to do this feature for us. Thanks.
Todd Richissin
10:44 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Chris: Great advice, and thanks for the introduction. For all: How does a graduating college student with no long-term, real-world experience to point to, best convince a potential employer that he/she has what it takes to contribute for the long haul?
Chris McLinden
12:14 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Todd,
My daughter will be in this predicament in two short years. My recommendation to her was to get a paid internship in the summer (which she did after her freshman year) and although she didn't enjoy the job all that much, she got paid and got exposed to some great "real world" tools (Salesforce.com and Quickbooks).
I would also not hesitate to put on your resume (as a new college graduate) any extracurricular activities and leadership roles you held during both college and high school years. I know "conventional wisdom" and some career counselors may not agree with going back four years to high school, but if I have a candidate in front of me that was captain of the football team in high school or college, drum major, -- or for that matter - just a member of the marching band for four years in high school, I want to know about it! It may spark my interest as a hiring manager to know (as a potential employer) if that individual, while attending high school, was on the field and practicing by 7:00 am everyday before school for a good portion of the school year - it shows a level of discipline and competiveness that I want to discern!
Alison Gowans
10:51 am on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Can someone tell me the difference between a resume and a CV, and when you should use them?
Amanda Schickel, Career Services Manager at Kaplan University
1:01 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Hi Alison,
I had to double check this before responding because we don’t see many curriculum vitaes in our office. :) For many people in the job search, especially those fresh out of school, a resume is typically the way to go. However, it is important to always follow the instructions of the employer.
A curriculum vitae (CV) is typically longer than a resume. While a resume includes information on your experience, education, and skills, a CV will also include information on teaching experience, research, presentations, publications, etc. Because of this CVs are generally used when applying for academic, scientific, or research opportunities. They are also more common overseas, so if you are looking into applying for a job internationally, you may want to put a CV together.
Alison Gowans
1:25 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Thanks Amanda. When I have searched for example resumes and CVs in the past, I've seen a wide range of what people think each of them should look like. Do you guys think there is a standard format people should follow? Are there any online resources you think are better than others at providing good example formats to follow? Are there hard and fast "rules" for resumes (like, I've been told to stick to one page), or should you follow your instincts?
Michael J Gremmer
2:09 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Hi Alison, I’m happy to weigh in here. Hiring managers tend to prefer chronological resumes – those organized with more recent job experience listed first, followed by previous positions – because the information is easy to find and review quickly. It’s important to remember that hiring managers in this competitive job market often are inundated with applications for open positions. If a resume is deemed confusing or hard to read, employers are unlikely to consider it. Our online career center has some great resources and tips for writing a compelling resume. You can visit the site at: http://www.roberthalf.com/resumes
Amanda Schickel, Career Services Manager at Kaplan University
4:00 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
You are absolutely right! There are a lot of resume formats out there. Like Michael, we tend to recommend chronological resumes. However, we often encourage our students to create different sections within their resumes (such as “related experience” and “employment history”) so that those experiences which are most relevant are seen first, regardless of dates. Everything is then chronological within the sections. In terms of length, we recommend that new graduates with little related experience keep their resume to one page. If someone has quite a bit of related work experience (say 10 years or more) then it may be necessary to go onto a second page.
There are quite a few online resources out there, and we use handouts in our office that are a compilation of a number of resources. My recommendation would be to look for consistencies in what you are finding in websites—if you are seeing the same thing in a number of places, there is a good chance they are onto something.
Todd Richissin
2:42 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Here's a classic "padding the resume" question. At what point does one cut off listing their experience. On one hand, I can see that an employer would value knowing that somebody has worked since age 15. On the other hand, experience cleaning dishes may seem a bit too much information for someone applying to be Chief of Brain Surgery. Any guidance on this?
Chris McLinden
3:18 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Interesting question - although when I think of "padding a resume" I think in terms of "embellishing" a resume aka "lying" as in former (but short timer) Yahoo CEO Scott Thompson who recently falsely claimed a computer science degree on his resume, the Internet giant’s board of directors decided to fire its headman a week or two later after finding out about it.
I am not a believer in standard resume answers - different situations (and jobs) require different iterations of one's resume. So to say one page is all that is needed is somewhat flippant and to say "only go back 10 years" in terms of experience may also be bad advice depending on the job, what your potential employer is looking for in a skill set/back ground ect (it may in fact require more than ten years history which is the "standard" answer) The most important aspect of a resume is to craft if for the job you are seeking. Don't send out a one size fits all resume to all careers opportunities you are applying for --- a potential employer will sniff that one out right away -- and figure if the candidate can't come up with a resume that is pertinent and applies to the job they are hiring for -- what will that say about their work in the future if they hire this individual?
Anne Carothers-Kay
3:03 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
I'm curious as to how our experts feel the economy is doing in regards to unemployment. It seems like a lot of people are still out of work. How do you see the job market today compared to six months or a year or two ago?
Michael J Gremmer
4:12 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Hi Anne. Iowa continues to have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country, with the unemployment rate currently sitting at 5.1%, 0.9 percent lower than this time last year. There’s a lot more optimism among hiring managers than in years past. As the economy continues to experience incremental improvements, companies are hiring skilled professionals to meet business demands and support growth efforts. We’re seeing a dual job market in effect, with a brighter outlook for professionals who can fill skilled, specialized positions. In the Des Moines metro market specifically, we’re seeing high demand for skilled accounting, IT and administrative professionals in the manufacturing, insurance, financial services and healthcare sectors. We anticipate the next 3-4 years being very good on the job front here.
Tracy Vaubel
3:41 pm on Wednesday, July 4, 2012
Anne, my name is Tracy Vaubel, I am with the Ames Manpower office. You have a great question. Locally, the Ames/Story County area has an even lower unemployment rate, around 3.5%-4%. Manpower's Quarterly Employment Outlook Survey indicates strong hiring for the foreseeable future. I couldn't agree more with Michael's comment as our local client companies are having difficulty filling those skilled trades positions, and we don't see that changing for some time.
Locally, a couple of years ago we were coming out of the economic slump, six months ago hiring was picking up at an even quicker pace, and that continues today.
B.A. Morelli
3:22 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
A few years ago a staffer at a career center encouraged me to use what she called the new model for doing resumes. It was more skill set focused than about employers and positions. The top of the resume, after the header, had a qualifications field with bullet point sentences about a few skills you offer the job you are applying for. The next section had longer break outs about each of those skills with specific examples from your experiences. It's not until further down in the resume that you list work experiences, dates, education, etc. I am just wondering what you think of this style of resume, and if you think it is effective?
Billie Sucher, MS, CTMS, CTSB, JCTC, CCM, Career Transition Consultant, Author, Speaker
3:41 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Late to join the conversation here...I'm Billie Sucher and happy to be a part of this conversation. A bit about me as one of your "experts" on the panel ~~ I've been in private practice as a career management professional since 1985. By virtue of this, my focus is on career transitions, career coaching, resume writing, personal branding, outplacement consulting, public speaking, blogging and tweeting about career / job search matters. My resume work is featured in 30+ resume/cover letter books, and my most recent book -- Happy About the Career Alphabet -- can be found on Amazon.com. As a contributor to Career Hub, one of the top career-related blogs on the Internet, (http://www.careerhub.typepead.com) I am always happy to provide career management services to clients, be it locally or around the country. Feel free to visit my website at http://www.billiesucher.com or at LinkedIn: http://www.LinkedIn.com/billiesucher/
or on Twitter at http://twitter.com/billiesucher/. Thanks for asking me to share something about my credentials, Anne.
Billie Sucher, MS, CTMS, CTSB, JCTC, CCM, Career Transition Consultant, Author, Speaker
3:49 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Todd, while there is no perfect way to write a resume, I believe that honesty is the best policy. If, for instance, you graduated from college in 1991, then I would encourage you to account for your whereabouts workwise since 1991. If your degree was earned in 1976, then I would expect for you to account for your work experience since that time. The text that you share does not have to be lengthy, it simply needs to be present so that tracking back is easy and efficient for the hiring manager/decision-maker.
Billie Sucher, MS, CTMS, CTSB, JCTC, CCM, Career Transition Consultant, Author, Speaker
4:03 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Anne,
The job market is intensely competitive, be it yesterday, today or tomorrow. Job seekers who take the time and effort to invest in learning and discovering best practices for career management are at a distinct advantage given the competitive nature of today's workplace. In my session with a client earlier this afternoon, we concluded with: Know your product, know your brand, know your value and know why an employer "should" employ you before you go on job interviews. Brand distinction is a key ingredient to "standing out" and getting hired in today's highly competitive job market.
Todd Richissin
9:25 am on Thursday, July 5, 2012
Every interview, it seems, comes with the: "Where do you see yourself in five years?" question. Is there a good answer for this?
Amanda Schickel, Career Services Manager at Kaplan University
10:04 am on Thursday, July 5, 2012
Hi Todd,
This is a tricky question, especially if you don't know exactly where you plan to be in five years. I think the most important thing is to show that you have the desire to continue to advance, grow, and learn. Ideally that would be within the company you are interviewing with, but it's difficult to know whether that is a realistic goal when you are just getting to know the company yourself. Instead, I would be honest and leave it more general. If you do share more specific plans with the interviewer, make sure that they are focused on your professional life and that they don't include leaving the company you are interviewing with in the near future.
The other thing to keep in mind is that employers want to see that you have thought about your future. You don't have to know everything, but have a basic idea of the types of things you would like to achieve or the skills you would like to continue to develop over the coming years. Employers like goal-oriented employees!
Michael J Gremmer
2:35 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012
Hi Todd. To Amanda’s point below, with this question, prospective employers are hoping to get a sense of your drive and ambition. While avoiding sounding inflexible, demonstrate your goals for professional growth and career advancement.
Maria Houser Conzemius
10:43 am on Thursday, July 5, 2012
Brian, you mentioned going to a career center and getting some ideas for how to put together a resume. I also went to a career center. I think it was the University of Iowa Career Center, although there's also a career center at Kirkwood Community College, and took two or three aptitude/personality/interest tests that were either free or low cost.
I found out a lot of interesting things about myself, none of which I'd previously been aware of. The Strong-Campbell was one of those tests. I'd always been steered toward female-dominated fields, which I advised my daughter NOT to do. Turns out I scored highest on male-dominated positions: air force officer, investigative reporter, carpenter, electrician, all of which are careers followed by men on both sides of my family. Are career interests/aptitudes genetic? Made me wonder.
I'm proud to say that my 23-year-old daughter wears steel-toed boots and has a helmet and gas mask handy for her job. She will make a lot more money than I ever did. I'm glad she majored in hard sciences.
Ashlee Kieler
11:17 am on Thursday, July 5, 2012
Pros, Any suggestions for someone looking for a job in another state? Specifically, moving from KC to Iowa?
I've heard you should put a local address on your resume? But isn't that misleading?
Michael J Gremmer
2:35 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012
Hi Ashlee, I’d recommend getting in front of it by explaining in your cover letter why you are searching for a job outside your immediate area. You might note, for instance, that you have long wished to work for a particular firm and are willing to relocate in order to do so. Or you may say that you will soon move to the city where you are seeking employment (if so, include a move date, so employers know you are serious).
Billie Sucher, MS, CTMS, CTSB, JCTC, CCM, Career Transition Consultant, Author, Speaker
4:01 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012
Hi Ashlee,
With respect to your address on your professional marketing materials, I would counsel you to use the city/state of the geographical area you presently reside. In the FOCUS / GOAL section of your professional résumé, you can state your targeted job (or area of interest) followed by Relocating to Des Moines, IA ~ September 2012. While it is valuable to mention in your cover letter that you are relocating, if by chance the cover letter does not get read (as it sometimes doesn’t), the employer will be unaware of your relocation intention. Lastly, if you are networking into a community, invite your connections to serve as an ambassador and advocate on your behalf and the address “thing” becomes less of an issue as prospects will hopefully care more about you and your skillset than your current address. All the best to you!